IF spring is in a already compressed state and two blocks are there one above another so when will the above block lose contact , what should be the condiition

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Published July 7, 2025
Physics
Mechanics
Oscillations and Waves
Simple Harmonic Motion
Normal Reaction & Contact Forces

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Detailed Explanation

1. Physical picture

  • Two blocks of masses m1m_1 (top) and m2m_2 (bottom) are placed one above the other on a vertically compressed spring of force constant kk.
  • When the spring is released, it executes simple harmonic motion (SHM) with the combined mass (m1+m2)(m_1+m_2) acting like the load.
  • Both blocks initially move together because of static friction/normal contact.

2. Contact criterion (Normal force)

  • The normal force NN between the blocks is what keeps them in contact.

  • Free–body diagram of the upper block while they still move together:

    • Upward forces: NN
    • Downward forces: Weight m1gm_1 g
  • Using Newton’s second law (taking upward positive):
    Nm1g=m1aN - m_1 g = m_1 a where aa is the upward acceleration of the common motion at that instant.

  • The instant the block is about to lose contact, N0N \to 0.

  • Hence the condition becomes

    0m1g=m1a        a=g0 - m_1 g = m_1 a \;\;\Rightarrow\;\; a = -g

    (The negative sign merely tells us that the required upward acceleration magnitude is gg.)
    In magnitude:

    ag|a| \ge g

3. Relating acceleration to spring parameters

For SHM of angular frequency ω\omega:

ω=km1+m2\omega = \sqrt{\frac{k}{m_1 + m_2}}

The displacement of the platform (lower block) may be written as

x(t)=Acos(ωt+ϕ)x(t) = A \cos(\omega t + \phi)

Acceleration is

a(t)=ω2Acos(ωt+ϕ)a(t) = -\omega^{2} A \cos(\omega t + \phi)

Its maximum magnitude is

amax=ω2Aa_{\text{max}} = \omega^{2} A

Therefore, the separation happens if

amaxgAgω2=gm1+m2ka_{\text{max}} \ge g\quad\Longrightarrow\quad A \ge \frac{g}{\omega^{2}} = g\,\frac{m_1+m_2}{k}

So, either (i) the amplitude AA is big enough, or (ii) kk is large, or (iii) the masses are small, such that the spring can give at least gg upward acceleration.

Simple Explanation (ELI5)

Imagine this scenario like a pogo-stick!

  1. Pogo-stick (spring) is already squeezed.
  2. Two friends (blocks) are standing one on top of the other on that spring.
  3. When the spring is released, it pushes both friends upward.
  4. The top friend will only stay touching the bottom friend as long as the bottom friend can keep pushing him up faster than gravity pulls him down.
  5. The moment gravity wins (that is, the spring cannot accelerate the bottom friend upward as fast as gravity pulls the top friend downward), the top friend will start to float — he loses contact!

So, in very simple words:

The top block loses contact when the spring’s upward jerk (acceleration) becomes equal to or more than the pull of gravity (gg).

If the spring can give an upward acceleration aa to the system and at some instant aga \ge g, the normal force between the blocks becomes zero, and the upper block separates.

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Step-by-Step Solution

Step-by-step derivation

  1. System description

    • Upper mass: m1m_1
    • Lower mass: m2m_2
    • Spring constant: kk
    • Amplitude of oscillation after release: AA
    • Angular frequency:

    ω=km1+m2\omega = \sqrt{\frac{k}{m_1 + m_2}}

  2. Equation for upper block while in contact

    Nm1g=m1aN - m_1 g = m_1 a

  3. Contact loss condition
    Set N=0N=0:

    m1g=m1a        a=g-m_1 g = m_1 a \;\;\Longrightarrow\;\; a = -g

    (Magnitude areq=ga_{\text{req}} = g upward.)

  4. Maximum acceleration provided by the spring

    amax=ω2Aa_{\text{max}} = \omega^{2} A

  5. Condition to satisfy

    ω2Ag\omega^{2} A \ge g

    Substituting ω\omega:

    km1+m2  A    g\frac{k}{m_1 + m_2}\; A \; \ge \; g

    Ag(m1+m2)kA \ge \frac{g\,(m_1 + m_2)}{k}

  6. Final Answer
    The upper block loses contact if the amplitude of oscillation is at least

    Ag(m1+m2)k\boxed{\displaystyle A \ge \frac{g\,(m_1 + m_2)}{k}}

    equivalently, whenever the upward acceleration of the platform equals or exceeds gg so that the normal reaction drops to zero.

Examples

Example 1

Passenger feeling weightless at the top of a roller-coaster loop because the seat cannot push upward faster than gravity

Example 2

Sand in a sieve jumping off the base when you shake it hard enough (base acceleration exceeds g)

Example 3

Astronauts in a spacecraft in orbit experiencing weightlessness due to free-fall acceleration equal to g

Example 4

Loose luggage in a bus jumping off the floor when the bus goes over a sharp bump (floor’s upward acceleration exceeds g)

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